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                               A Ceremony

                         Unveiling the Portrait

                                   of

                             THE HONORABLE

                            JAMES V. HANSEN

      A Representative in Congress from the First District of Utah

                 Chairman of the Committee on Resources

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                              PROCEEDINGS

                               before the

                         COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES

                     U.S. House of Representatives

                           September 19, 2002

                    U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
                           WASHINGTON : 2003
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                               A Ceremony

                         Unveiling the Portrait

                                   of

                             THE HONORABLE

                            JAMES V. HANSEN

                         COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES

                     U.S. House of Representatives

                      Thursday, September 19, 2002

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                       Honorable James V. Hansen

Jim Hansen's elected public service began over 42 years ago when he set 
    out to fix the Farmington water system. The Mayor told Jim, ``If 
    you want to fix the water system, run for the city council.'' All 
    of you who know Jim know what happened next, he accepted the 
    challenge, became the youngest member ever elected to city council 
    and fixed the water system.

But Jim's service to his country goes back even further. Serving as a 
    member of the Naval Reserve, Jim was called to active duty during 
    the Korean War. He was assigned to Air Training Units in Hutchison, 
    Kansas where he served as an airman maintaining multi-engine patrol 
    aircraft like the PB4Y. Planning to enter the Naval Cadets program 
    and begin flight school, the war ended. Instead, Jim returned to 
    Utah to complete his degree at the University of Utah, married and 
    began a successful business career as an insurance agent and land 
    developer.

After serving twelve years on the Farmington City Council, Jim was 
    elected to the Utah House of Representatives. There, he served for 
    four terms, and was Speaker of the House the last two years. In 
    1980, Jim was elected to Congress. He has served the people of Utah 
    and the country with great distinction for the past 22 years.

The first representative from Utah to chair a full Committee, Jim has 
    served as Chairman of the Committee on Standards of Official 
    Conduct, and is currently serving as the Chairman of the House 
    Resources Committee. He is the third ranking member of the Armed 
    Services Committee, and has been assigned to many important task 
    forces and commissions over his 22 year tenure on Capitol Hill. 
    Prior to chairing the full Resources Committee, Jim served as 
    Chairman of the Subcommittee on National Parks and Public Lands for 
    six years.

As Chairman of the Resources Committee, Jim has promoted 
    environmentally sound multiple-use of public lands, stopped the 
    implementation of Secretary Bruce Babbitt's re-inventory of BLM 
    lands in Utah, has passed numerous wilderness bills nationwide, and 
    is actively involved in developing a sound energy policy for the 
    United States.

A native Utahn, Jim was born in Salt Lake City, graduated from the 
    University of Utah, and has made his home in Farmington, Utah. He 
    is married to Ann Burgoyne Hansen and is the father of five and the 
    grandfather of nine.
                               The Artist

                           Michael Del Priore
Michael Del Piore, a national award winning artist, is a native South 
    Carolinian and is in the front ranks of American portrait painting. 
    Prominent work can be seen in major capitols, supreme courts, 
    universities, banks, hospitals, board rooms, offices and private 
    homes. Commissions total over 600, including the following 
    distinguished individuals: The Honorable Henry Hyde, The Honorable 
    Robert Smith, The Honorable Gerald Solomon, The Honorable Bob 
    Stump, and The Honorable Bill Young.
With a background in illustration work and further studies with 
    nationally acclaimed artists, a sure foundation for portraiture was 
    provided. Michael studied at the National Academy in New York with 
    Everett Raymond Kinstler and New York Academy with Nelson Shanks. 
    Further accomplishments were attained by teaching at the University 
    of South Carolina and the Columbia Museum of Art, also giving 
    lectures and demonstrations to art and civic groups. His 
    affiliations are: Board of Directors of American Society of 
    Portrait Artists, a member of the Artists Fellowship Society of New 
    York, and in the Who's Who of South Carolina Artists.
                             P R O G R A M

                  1324 Longworth House Office Building

                     5:30 P.M., September 19, 2002

Masters of Ceremony
                The Honorable Jack Fields

                The Honorable Ron Packard

Remarks
                The Honorable Mike Leavitt
                Governor of Utah

                The Honorable Richard K. Armey
                Majority Leader

                The Honorable J. Dennis Hastert
                Speaker of the House

                The Honorable Tom DeLay
                Majority Whip

                The Honorable Don Young
                Chairman, Committee on Transportation

                The Honorable Nick J. Rahall, II
                Ranking Member, Committee on Resources

                Senator Robert F. Bennett

Recognition of the Artist
                Michael Del Priore

Unveiling of the Portrait
                Mrs. Ann Hansen and Family Members

Remarks
                The Honorable James V. Hansen
                Chairman, Committee on Resources
                  A Ceremony Unveiling the Portrait of

                             THE HONORABLE

                            JAMES V. HANSEN

                      Thursday, September 19, 2002
                      U.S. House of Representatives
                               Committee on Resources
                                                         Washington, DC
Mr. Fields. May I have your attention, please.
My name is Jack Fields. I am a former Member of Congress, and I am here 
    tonight with my Co-Chairman, Ron Packard, also a former Member from 
    California. On behalf of Ron, myself, and the Hansen family, I 
    would like to welcome everyone to this very auspicious occasion, 
    the unveiling of a portrait of our friend, James V. Hansen.
We have several very important speakers tonight. Some have airplanes to 
    catch. So we are going to be as expeditious as possible.
First of all, I would like to call on an unexpected guest, but a very 
    important guest, the Governor of Utah, Mike Leavitt.

                    REMARKS OF GOVERNOR MIKE LEAVITT
Governor Leavitt. I am here tonight representing the people of Utah. It 
    is appropriate that the portrait of Jim Hansen hang in this 
    Chamber, but it also should be recognized, and it is recognized 
    widely, that in the 106-year history of our State, one would not 
    find another person who has had a more marked impact on the State 
    of Utah than Jim Hansen.
And I will simply quote the great western novel, ``Shane,'' which said, 
    ``A good man rode out of the West one day,'' and that man was Jim 
    Hansen.
Mr. Fields. The great Governor of Utah should be followed by a great 
    Texan, the distinguished Majority Leader, Dick Armey.

                    REMARKS OF HON. RICHARD K. ARMEY

                            Majority Leader
Mr. Armey. Well, let me just say how proud I am to be included in this. 
    Jim, congratulations to you. And, ma'am--I am from Texas, ma'am; if 
    I had a hat, we would make that complete.
But I want to say, I thought so hard about this. How can you possibly 
    pay your compliments and your appreciation to Jim Hansen? And it 
    finally came to me about 2 o'clock, Jim, while I was walking from 
    one building to another. You know, in this House of Representatives 
    that we all love so much, we cannot honor you without burdening 
    you. Aren't we amazing about that? And, Jim, as a fellow who has 
    accepted the burden so many times--not very many people remember 
    this; Jim does--when we took over the majority, our Speaker was 
    under serious pressure--there was a real problem.
I had as one of my first obligations the selection of a Committee on 
    Ethics and Standards. I had to rack my brain, where can I possibly 
    go? The first person that I thought of was Jim Hansen. The first 
    thing I realized is, he has already done that. He had already, in 
    the most difficult circumstances, accepted the responsibility that 
    comes with the trust of your colleagues.
Imagine that--all of us--all of our colleagues saying, we want to turn 
    to this man to be the Chairman of the Committee that will judge us. 
    Imagine the trust that we, as a body of people, put in him. I think 
    it is one of the most extraordinary trusts that a body could put in 
    another person.
So in full knowledge that he had already done his time, I went to Jim 
    and I asked him to accept this responsibility again, anew, under 
    different circumstances. We were an untried, new majority.
And Jim did that; and his service to our body, his service to his 
    Nation, his service to his colleagues and his service and 
    allegiance to personal standards of conduct that are beyond 
    question was exemplified once more.
And, Jim, we appreciate it. You have always been that person for us, 
    and we love you.
Mr. Fields. A great Governor, who was followed by a great Majority 
    Leader; the only thing we can do now is welcome the greatest 
    Speaker in congressional history, the Honorable Denny Hastert.

                 REMARKS OF THE HON. J. DENNIS HASTERT

                          Speaker of the House
Speaker Hastert. I just want to say thanks for including me.
And, Jim, you know, I remember watching an old Irish movie--it wasn't 
    old; it was a couple of years ago--and one of the main lines in the 
    movie is that, probably the greatest honor a man could have is to 
    sit in the front row at his own funeral and hear all the good 
    things that people say about him.
But, that is very difficult to do, so this is probably the closest 
    thing you are going to have.
I remember Jim gave me some advice when I first became Speaker. He 
    said, you have got a lousy job, but do the best you can. And I 
    think that came from another time when Jim was Speaker of the Utah 
    House.
I get a chance to go to Utah from time to time. We visit, and the 
    Governor and I had a great visit; and, when I was in Utah this last 
    summer--Jim, you were off at some important meeting--a trip, I 
    think. But anyway everybody in Utah was saying, we are certainly 
    glad that Jim can have a future. But they certainly were unhappy 
    that you were leaving the Congress because they knew that in Jim 
    Hansen, they had somebody in the U.S. Congress that they could 
    trust, that served their best interests, the people of Utah. And 
    you certainly did, with the highest level of service and integrity.
I think a lot of these things have already been said, and I say 
    ``Amen'' to everything that Dick Armey said, that when we looked 
    for somebody to lead us, somebody to have the utmost, highest 
    standards in the Congress and in our Ethics Committee, to lead us 
    through sometimes pretty tough situations, they turned to you.
And, Jim, I know I asked you in the last tough time that we had a 
    couple of months--or a month or so ago, when we had one of those 
    hearings on the floor, I turned to you to have the gavel, to lead 
    this Congress and to be that person, to be able to lead us through 
    that. And I appreciate your efforts.
I certainly appreciate the efforts that you have made on your Committee 
    and the work that you have done on both Interior and Armed 
    Services. It has always been quality work. There is never a 
    question about where your interests are, and that is with your 
    constituents and the people of this country. You have served them 
    well. You have been a wonderful Member, you have been a great 
    Chairman; and we are going to miss you.
Last night we were at Jim Sensenbrenner's unveiling, and I said, You 
    are going to make some people uncomfortable with Jim Sensenbrenner 
    looking over their shoulder for the next two or three decades. But 
    I think you will make people very comfortable, looking over their 
    shoulder.
Jim, thank you.
Mr. Fields. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I think a real testament to the Chairman is the number of people who 
    are here tonight in leadership. And what many of you may not know 
    is that one of our leaders, the Majority Whip, delayed his flight 
    back to Houston just to be here, so it is my honor and distinction 
    to introduce our Whip.

                       REMARKS OF HON. TOM DELAY

                             Majority Whip
Mr. Delay. Thank you very much. It is hard to add to the eloquence of 
    the Speaker and the Leader and the Governor of Utah, but let me 
    just say, there is--to all of us that serve in this House, none of 
    us can do it without the sacrifices of our family and our spouses; 
    and you know what most people don't realize, that haven't served in 
    this body, our spouses become everything--the chauffeur, the 
    accountant, the plumber, the baby-sitter, everything. They do 
    everything to allow us to do what we do.
And there has been no bigger sacrifice; and we thank you so much, Ann, 
    for the sacrifice that you made for his family, Jim's family. We 
    really appreciate you.
I--you know, there is no greater joy than to serve on Capitol Hill. It 
    is not the grandeur of this building; it is the joy of serving with 
    people of principle. And you know, you get up every morning, and 
    you live with these people and share the--life's ups and downs, and 
    are able to fight the battles on principle.
What gets me up every morning and brings me back to this building is 
    the service with people of great moral integrity and great 
    principle. And I have got to tell you, there is no one in this body 
    that exhibits moral integrity and principle like Jim Hansen. He is 
    a standard for this body. He is a role model for all of us and has 
    been a role model for us.
It is part of what we have to endure when we have people of the quality 
    that we have in Jim Hansen and they decide to retire. It is part of 
    this place, and it is something that we have to put up with; but I 
    have got to tell you, it has been, at least in my 18 years of being 
    in this body, a real pleasure and a joy to fight those battles of 
    principle with a man like Jim Hansen.
Thank you, Jim.
Mr. Fields. I would now like to introduce a quiet man from Alaska, the 
    Chairman of Transportation, Don Young.

                       REMARKS OF HON. DON YOUNG

                 Chairman, Committee on Transportation
Mr. Young. Thank you, and it will be short.
Jim, I can only say I feel like George Patton. I needed a good captain 
    beside me, and you are a captain that became the general. I want to 
    congratulate you on a very good job, and we are going to miss you.
I will tell you, though, this is fleeting. I was hanging right back 
    there where the cowboy picture is. That is where you will be 
    hanging when we unveil this. It is very good.
But the day after I got out of office, I was put over here in the 
    corner by you. It is fleeting, believe me.
But the only thing I would like to suggest before--and I say this in 
    respect to my good friend, George Miller--he was over me long 
    enough, and I would like to be over him while you are over there. I 
    think it would be a great way to go. But this is always a time that 
    you will remember, you and your lovely wife and family will 
    remember, when they hung you in the Capitol for the recognition you 
    were able to give to this great Nation of ours and the State which 
    you have represented.
And congratulations again. Thank you.
Mr. Fields. A great friend of all of ours, the Ranking Minority Member 
    on the Resources Committee, the gentleman from the Third District 
    of West Virginia, Nick Rahall.

                   REMARKS OF HON. NICK J. RAHALL, II

                 Ranking Member, Committee on Resources
Mr. Rahall. Thank you, Jack.
For those of you that may have been wondering why the Republicans, when 
    they came to power, decided they wanted to limit the terms of their 
    chairmen on the Committees, it took me a little while, but I 
    finally figured it out. They want to be able to rotate around 
    Committees so that they can get their pictures hung in more 
    Committee rooms than it took us Democrats 40 years in power to get 
    ours up there.
I have been here 26 years, and previous to Jim Hansen becoming Chairman 
    of our Committee, some of you may recall that there was a bit of 
    acrimony on our Committee. Where did that Don Young go? Well, I 
    guess he didn't want to hear me say this.
As a matter of fact, a lot of that acrimony, it was to the breaking 
    point. We often had a great deal of partisanship, some bitter 
    arguments and people huffing and puffing and leaving the room. 
    Well, Jim Hansen took over. Believe you me, he has brought a 
    leadership to our Committee that has been calm, cool, collected, 
    reasoned; and we all have appreciated that.
As a matter of fact, Jim's leadership of our Committee has probably 
    been the best--the best Chairman, well, I guess since the last time 
    the Democrats were in power.
And Jim is a humble person. He really is. I am sure he fought this 
    portrait unveiling. He didn't want to sit through the hours it took 
    to have it done. That is not Jim Hansen's style. He would much 
    rather have had that portrait back there, that Joel Hefley did in 
    his honor. But Jim is a very respected Member of this body.
I remember one time we were going through a little legislation--not too 
    long ago, shortly after he announced he was leaving our body--and I 
    asked him, All right, Jim, I want to have something named after 
    you, and I am searching and searching. He said very quickly, Oh, 
    there is this great outhouse out in Utah. And I thought he was 
    kidding. I thought he was kidding, but in case you don't know it, 
    he really has a thing for outhouses.
So I changed and said, Well, I want to name a trail after you. We were 
    able to name a trail after Jim. But he truly has this thing for 
    outhouses, federally protected outhouses.
And I understand even on the recent CODEL to Australia that his love of 
    outhouses came out.
Did you know that, Ann?
But on a serious note, Jim Hansen is a man that I am going to miss. We 
    have had disagreements, yes, on how we manage this country's 
    valuable resources and how we go about monument designations and 
    perhaps some other items, but we on the Democratic side--and I see 
    my colleague, Neal Abercrombie here from my side of the aisle; any 
    others, please raise your hand--but I do, on behalf of all of us, 
    respect the leadership, the calm, cool way in which Jim Hansen has 
    handled matters before our Committee. It has made us proud as a 
    Committee.
As I said, maybe we have our disagreements on the management style, but 
    one thing we do agree on, this country has a vast number of 
    resources that we need to protect, and we need to do it for the 
    sake of our children and children to come. And so, to Jim, to you 
    and to Ann, may you have many, many years together of peaceful 
    bliss and enjoyment in your home State. And to all of our 
    colleagues that are here, we join in giving Jim Hansen a round of 
    applause.
Mr. Fields. We also have the Senator from the great State of Utah, 
    Senator Bennett.

                  REMARKS OF SENATOR ROBERT F. BENNETT
Senator Bennett. It is always dangerous to give a Senator an open mike; 
    you never know what is going to happen.
You have been standing there long enough. I can't prolong it a great 
    deal. Jim and I went to high school together. I am sure as we sat 
    in Mr. Iverson's English class, neither one of us thought that this 
    would be where we would end up. Jim is going back to Mr. Iverson's 
    English class or at least to read some of the books he did not read 
    when they were assigned.
But, Jim, you have done the State proud. For those who don't realize 
    it, Jim Hansen has represented the State of Utah in the House of 
    Representatives longer than any other individual in the history of 
    the State. We keep turning them over, which is not a good idea in 
    the seniority business, but Jim is the one who has lasted and 
    leaves an indelible mark and an indelible legacy; and all of us in 
    Utah are proud of him.
Jim, thank you.
Mr. Fields. I think protocol would call for me to try to recognize 
    every Member out there. I don't see everybody--Darryl, Neal, Duncan 
    in the back, Joel, Buck. Who else am I missing? Ben Gilman. Sorry. 
    Anyone else?
And all the staff members, personal and Committee, who worked for the 
    Chairman, if you would raise your hand, because I know how much he 
    appreciates all of you.
Now it is my pleasure to introduce the Co-Chair of tonight's event, the 
    Honorable Ron Packard of California.

                      REMARKS OF HON. RON PACKARD
Mr. Packard. Thank you, Jack.
When Jim asked Jack and me to raise the money to pay for this portrait, 
    we announced it, and the money just kept rolling in, until they 
    asked who it was for and what it was for, and then we really had to 
    struggle for the money from then on.
My wife Jean and I have become very, very close friends with Jim and 
    Ann. We have traveled together. We have dined together. We have 
    done a lot of church work together. We have done a lot of things 
    together. And they are dear friends. But, Jim, in case you think 
    that with all the Speaker, the Leader and the Whip, and all of the 
    other people, that the Governor said about you, you are going to 
    tend to get a fat head. I know, because I have been there, too, and 
    my head got so big.
But I have to tell you a story. Ann has been behind you all along, and 
    let me tell you a story about when Jean and I first came to 
    Congress 20 years ago and we were invited to this very elegant 
    evening down at the Kennedy Center where they honor the top five 
    performers of the Nation.
It was just an elegant evening; and we were even brought to the event 
    in a limousine, and that was, I believe, the first or second time I 
    had ever been in one of those things. And so it was an elegant 
    evening, and as we got out of the limousine and got onto the red 
    carpet and entered the Kennedy Center at the Hall of Flags, all of 
    a sudden the lights started popping, and people started yelling and 
    screaming.
I turned to Jean, and I said, I didn't know anybody knew who I was. And 
    she says, Well, look behind you. And there was Jimmy Stewart.
Jim, when you get to thinking that you have really done something 
    great, look behind you. Ann has been behind you all the way.
It has been a pleasure to work with you, Jim, on this portrait. I hope 
    you will enjoy it. It should be a great one and a legacy that we 
    leave for this room and for this Congress.
He is a great man, and there are not a lot of great men that come 
    along, only now and then.
My hat's off to you, Jim, and thanks for all you have done for the 
    country.
By the way, Nick Rahall's speech about outhouses is absolutely true. I 
    told him a story about an outhouse that I was involved in. He 
    embellished it to the point where I am embarrassed to even think 
    about it.
Mr. Fields. Well, as a former Chairman, you get so excited when you 
    have a live microphone in your hand, you skip right past ``America 
    the Beautiful.'' So we have a song now by Sergeant First Class 
    Antonio Guiliano, United States Army. He will sing ``America the 
    Beautiful.''
Sergeant Guiliano. It is indeed an honor for me to be a part of this 
    great celebration of service to our great and blessed Nation.
[Whereupon, ``America the Beautiful'' was sung.]
Mr. Fields. I would now like to recognize one of the most preeminent 
    portrait artists in America, Michael Del Priore.
I would also--I think, from what I have seen, you have not only 
    captured the likeness but the spirit of this great man; and we are 
    very appreciative.
And now we will have the unveiling of the portrait. Hansen is 
    accompanied by David Hansen and wife Lorraine and daughter Anna; 
    and Jenny Hansen Condie, accompanied by husband Rick and children, 
    Curtis and Rachel.
We are looking for Jennifer. Here she comes.
[Whereupon, the portrait was unveiled.]
Mr. Fields. On behalf of Ron and myself, first of all, we would like to 
    thank everyone who worked with us in raising funds for this 
    portrait.
Again, Michael, in looking at this, it was certainly worthwhile. You 
    captured the spirit and the likeness of our friend.
I now have the high honor of introducing the Chairman of the Resources 
    Committee, the Honorable Jim Hansen of Utah.
Wait a minute. You all have fallen into this thinking I am going to be 
    very quick in all these introductions. Not this one. This is my one 
    time that I want to say a few things.
I entered with this guy--along with Duncan, and I don't know who else 
    is in the room--in 1980. And I don't know if you remember 1980. 
    Very high interest rates. Terrible inflation. Communism was rampant 
    around the world, and there were 50-some-odd of us who came to 
    Washington, many of us fresh from our districts, never having 
    really been outside our States. And I have to say to you, in 
    looking back at all of those years, when you look at the people in 
    our class--and I am proud of every member of our class, but I am 
    particularly proud of Jim Hansen, who never wavered, never stuck 
    his finger in the political winds, was always committed.
And if you asked me to use a word or words to describe this individual, 
    I would use the word ``class.'' I would use the word ``committed.'' 
    I would use the word ``patriot.'' And I would say that he is an 
    exemplification, a personification of what our forefathers intended 
    as a Representative. I think he represents everything that is great 
    about this institution.
And I think his leaving, it is a victory for his family, it is a 
    victory for his hometown, but it is a loss for all of us. But I 
    can't think of anyone who more personifies what is good about this 
    great country than my friend, James V. Hansen, the Chairman of 
    Natural Resources.

                    ADDRESS BY HON. JAMES V. HANSEN
Mr. Hansen. Thank you very much.
What a pleasure to be here tonight. I am really kind of embarrassed in 
    a way, though. I don't deserve anywhere near the nice things that 
    were said.
It kind of reminds me of a funeral. I got a peak at my own funeral here 
    tonight. Somebody take this down, so when I die, we can just replay 
    all this stuff and go from there.
Everyone asks me what I am going to do when I get out. I thought I 
    would start working on my headstone. That should be the first thing 
    to work on, which I'll leave to the confidence of John Eisold, who 
    is probably, in my mind, one of the most competent doctors around.
You know, when I look around this crowd, I just marvel at the way this 
    place works. When you walk in here, you wonder, how is this thing 
    going to work. But it works very well, and a lot of it is all the 
    unsung people, those people you don't really see on TV all the 
    time, and those people that you don't see on the ``gas bags'' on 
    Sunday, which is basically the Senators, as we all know. No 
    disrespect to Bob. Truth is truth, regardless of where it is found.
I still remember walking in this place 22 years ago, and we had a 
    fellow by the name of Thomas P. O'Neill from Massachusetts, the 
    Speaker of the House. And he was talking to the freshman class, and 
    he says, One thing you are going to learn, he said, is that the 
    Representatives, those of us in the House, do most of the work, and 
    the Senate gets most of the attention. And he used the term, if you 
    don't believe that, just turn on your television set on Sunday and 
    you will see all the ``gas bags'' there with all the people there.
And if I may say so respectfully, these gentlemen who have been talking 
    to you are the ones that have pumped out more good legislation than 
    I have ever seen in my 22 years here. They are right here.
And for all of you good staffers who work on the Resource Committee, we 
    have, what, 87 bills sitting over there that haven't been acted 
    upon yet--and bless you, Dick Armey, for allowing us to do a few 
    more next week. We will give them 30, 40 more really good pieces of 
    legislation we hope they act upon.
Bob, I surely hope you keep that in mind when you go back and leave 
    Boy's Town over here and go over there and help us out. But there 
    are so many, many competent people who work so very diligently to 
    do this.
Now, you probably noticed when you came in, on the back wall there, 
    that was the first portrait we did. This was done by a renowned 
    artist from Colorado, who was also in the Cowboy Hall of Fame, I 
    think, also does all those kinds of things. He is studying up so he 
    can be in the same class as you are, Michael, when he gets to that 
    point.
The Honorable Joel Hefley is very, very confident, and I sit with him 
    both in this Committee and across in the Rayburn Building in the 
    Armed Services Committee, which from time to time, I have to say, 
    when things get a little boring around here--and not all of the 
    testimony we hear is so fascinating that we are sitting on the edge 
    of our seats picking it up; and Joel has a way of sitting down and 
    drawing pictures of people. He will pick somebody in the crowd and 
    do it, and then we all enjoy it up there; and everyone wonders why 
    we are enjoying ourselves for a while, as we look at the great work 
    of Joel Hefley.
And thank you, Joel, for doing that.
But we are going to move that to another place.
Mr. Hefley. What?
Mr. Hansen. What worries me is, he wanted $20,000 for it. I offered him 
    a dollar down and a dime a week, but he won't even take it. I don't 
    know about you, Joel. I worry about you.
I look around this room, and I see so many, many competent people and 
    great friends. You know, America is a wonderful place, isn't it? It 
    is just a tremendous place. I received a Stuart Symington Award 
    from the Air Force last Tuesday. I didn't deserve it at all, but 
    they gave it to me, and I was honored to get it.
But I thought about it and I thought about my days in the Navy. You 
    know, I walked into San Diego at 18 years old, not wanting to be 
    there. My brother-in-law was head of the Naval Reserve in Salt Lake 
    City, and I was a freshman at the University of Utah. He said, 
    Don't you worry. He said, You probably won't be called to active 
    duty. It was during the Korean War. He said, You just stick here 
    and we will be all right.
Guess who was the first person called to active duty out of that area? 
    Ben, he is a smart guy. He knew how to get rid of me. I walked in 
    there regretting it somewhat, but as I look back at it, I think 
    that is the best experience I ever had. You know, you look at those 
    scroungy kids going into boot camp. You get 11 weeks of hell. They 
    are up at 4:00 in the morning, all of these things. You learn 
    discipline. You learn to be sharp, and at the end of that thing--we 
    had this big parade at the end; everybody looked pretty sharp, and 
    they became good Americans. All of a sudden we wanted out, but 
    about a third of the guys stayed there and made a career of it. 
    Many of them went to flight school, others, things that many of us 
    wanted to do. I got out and finished my education at the University 
    of Utah.
But, you know, Congress has a way of doing the same thing. I think of 
    Henry Hyde. Henry Hyde always said, When I came in here, I wanted 
    to change the world; and now if I can get out of here with a little 
    dignity, I will be happy. That is just how I feel. Three more 
    months, if I can just make it without making some stupid mistake 
    that my friend Lee Davidson will write about, because Lee never 
    lets any of us off the hook. And we thank him for that--keeps us 
    humble, and we need that.
But you know, I work with some really great people. I work with great 
    Governors, Senators and others, but I think the leadership team we 
    have got here right now is one of the very best I have ever seen.
I don't know if you realize what a great leader Denny Hastert is. He is 
    one of the very, very best. And I work with a lot of people, and 
    this man knows how to bring people together. He knows how to get 
    legislation out. He is fantastic at this thing. Another thing is, 
    he is not always trying to get in front of a camera. I notice so 
    many people, the most dangerous place you can be is between a 
    camera and that person, because you will be trampled as soon as 
    they turn it on.
Denny, I think you are one of the best, and sitting next to you is 
    another one of the best. And another one is Tom Delay. These folks 
    know how to do it, and with that kind of margin, it is unbelievable 
    to me you can bring things together. I just don't know how you do 
    it.
When I was Speaker of the Utah House, we had a two-to-one margin. We 
    wanted something, we got it. And if we wanted something, we took 
    somebody to the woodshed to make sure we got it. And I have got to 
    repent for some of those things, frankly, because I have done some 
    things that were terrible. And I look at the class that these 
    gentlemen have, and I appreciate it.
I look around at all the people who work for me. I have had a lot of 
    folks over there. Do you realize I have been in this business now 
    42 years in a row? I started out as a City Councilman, and all I 
    wanted to do was fix the water system. I really didn't care if it 
    was Republican or Democrat. I just wanted to get somebody in that 
    would do it. Well, we got it done. I served there 12 years. I was 
    asked to run for the legislature. I did. And then I talked to a 
    fellow by the name of Norman H. Bangerter. After a few years, I 
    said, You know, Norm, we could run this show as easy as anybody 
    else. He said, Sure, we could; let's give it our best shot.
I ran for Speaker. He ran for Majority Leader. I went from there to 
    Congress. He went and became Governor for two terms. And you know, 
    it is the people who have this cause of wanting to do something, 
    something good.
When somebody says they want to run for Congress because they want the 
    attention, I am not interested in that person. But I am very 
    interested in the person who believes so strongly in the country. 
    Now, that is the guy I am worried about, the guy who really 
    believes he wants to do something to change the direction of the 
    country. Now, that is the important person, really, if I may say 
    so.
But it has been an honor to serve with these gentlemen. It really has.
My good friend Bob Bennett there, we were in high school. He sat in 
    front of me in Mr. Iverson's English class, as he pointed out. I 
    always wanted to look at his paper, but he would never let me do 
    it. He was the smartest kid in the class. We all knew that, and he 
    has been that way ever since.
Bob really should be in show business. He reminds me of Will Rogers. 
    You give him a hat and a rope, and he could easily stand on the 
    stage and do a fantastic job--one, of the greatest storytellers I 
    have ever heard and a fantastic Senator.
I don't know why you wanted to go over there, Bob, but to each his own. 
    I wouldn't be caught dead over there myself. Senator Bennett. Six-
    year term.
Mr. Hansen. Anyway, I want to thank each and every one of you.
And, Michael, what a great job. I am amazed that you could do it. When 
    he first saw me, he says, I don't know if I can make a racehorse 
    out of that jackass, but we will see what we can do. And out of 
    that, Michael, I really appreciate the work that you have done; and 
    that will probably hang for 2 hours after I am gone, and then go to 
    the basement somewhere. But you are a great artist, and we 
    appreciate it so much.
I appreciate my wife and family, my good friends, Jack Fields and Ron 
    Packard--how nice of you both to do this. I have admired these 
    people. Jack and I got in trouble the minute we walked in, as I 
    recall. We had to bail ourselves out of a big problem, but I won't 
    bore you with that. That is part of our business, that you get in 
    trouble occasionally around here.
But I always admire the person who will do something. I tell the guys 
    on this staff--they say, oh, we can't get this done and the other. 
    I say, try it anyway. Be wild and reckless, see if we can get it 
    through. And then if Dick will let us take it to the floor, we are 
    lucky enough to get him to open up a place for us, we have passed 
    some really good legislation out of here.
And I really appreciate all of you. I know you have been standing a 
    long time. I don't mean to carry this on any further, except thanks 
    so much to all of you. Boy, you are the greatest. I Appreciate you.
And in appreciation to both Ron and Jack, we have a little gift for 
    them, and I would appreciate it if you would open those.
And, Nick, I want to say, you have been great to deal with. You know, 
    part of our business is dealing with the other side. We all know 
    that, and Nick has been so cooperative, and I really appreciate 
    Nick Rahall. He just got back from Iraq. I didn't think we would 
    ever see him again when he left, but bless you for coming back.
Mr. Packard. Jack and I and all those who have contributed to the 
    artist's painting have also got something for Jim, and so we would 
    like to make that presentation now.
Mr. Hansen. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Mr. Fields. Just to show you what happens to old chairmen, Debbie just 
    came over and said, don't forget we have one more song.
To close out the evening, very appropriate, Sergeant Guiliano will sing 
    ``God Bless America.''
Sergeant Guiliano. Before I do sing God Bless America, I would like to 
    mention, proudly mention, that I am a member of the United States 
    Army Chorus, Pershing Zone, the Army Band in Arlington; and when 
    the honorable Congressman was speaking about his days in boot 
    camp--I am really a hoo-ah soldier.
Even though I am a musician, I was going in the Marine Corps when I was 
    18 in Special Operations, but I was told I had a beautiful operatic 
    voice and I should go and study music. And they talked me out of 
    going into the Marine Corps. So I went to a conservatory of music.
But I am honored to wear the uniform of the United States Army, and I 
    am honored to be a part of this wonderful celebration. I had no 
    idea of the immense feeling of patriotism and pride that I would 
    have walking into this building and into this room amongst you.
So with that said, I would like to present a CD of mine that I did for 
    9/11 last year. It is Sacred Recital, In Memory of September 11th, 
    and I would like to present this to you and your wife, Mrs. Hansen.
[Whereupon, the presentation was concluded with the singing of ``God 
    Bless America.'']
                         COMMITTEE ON RESOURCES

                      One Hundred Seventh Congress

                    JAMES V. HANSEN, Utah, Chairman
       NICK J. RAHALL II, West Virginia, Ranking Democrat Member

Don Young, Alaska,                   George Miller, California
  Vice Chairman                      Edward J. Markey, Massachusetts
W.J. ``Billy'' Tauzin, Louisiana     Dale E. Kildee, Michigan
Jim Saxton, New Jersey               Peter A. DeFazio, Oregon
Elton Gallegly, California           Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, American 
John J. Duncan, Jr., Tennessee           Samoa
Joel Hefley, Colorado                Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii
Wayne T. Gilchrest, Maryland         Solomon P. Ortiz, Texas
Ken Calvert, California              Frank Pallone, Jr., New Jersey
Scott McInnis, Colorado              Calvin M. Dooley, California
Richard W. Pombo, California         Robert A. Underwood, Guam
Barbara Cubin, Wyoming               Adam Smith, Washington
George Radanovich, California        Donna M. Christensen, Virgin 
Walter B. Jones, Jr., North              Islands
    Carolina                         Ron Kind, Wisconsin
Mac Thornberry, Texas                Jay Inslee, Washington
Chris Cannon, Utah                   Grace F. Napolitano, California
John E. Peterson, Pennsylvania       Tom Udall, New Mexico
Bob Schaffer, Colorado               Mark Udall, Colorado
Jim Gibbons, Nevada                  Rush D. Holt, New Jersey
Mark E. Souder, Indiana              Anibal Acevedo-Vila, Puerto Rico
Greg Walden, Oregon                  Hilda L. Solis, California
Michael K. Simpson, Idaho            Brad Carson, Oklahoma
Thomas G. Tancredo, Colorado         Betty McCollum, Minnesota
J.D. Hayworth, Arizona               Tim Holden, Pennsylvania
C.L. ``Butch'' Otter, Idaho
Tom Osborne, Nebraska
Jeff Flake, Arizona
Dennis R. Rehberg, Montana

                      Tim Stewart, Chief of Staff
           Lisa Pittman, Chief Counsel/Deputy Chief of Staff
                Steven T. Petersen, Deputy Chief Counsel
                    Michael S. Twinchek, Chief Clerk
                 James H. Zoia, Democrat Staff Director
               Jeffrey P. Petrich, Democrat Chief Counsel

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